Part 2

Due to the length and depth of content of the latest Black Flame Immersion podcast (on Hexes and Curses), I’m breaking my notes and ideas out into different posts. This is Part 2 of my notes and analysis of the podcast.

For Part 1, see the link below:

The podcast can be heard through the embedded link below, or through their full podcast site: Black Flame Immersion.


Performing the Curse

I really enjoyed this podcast, it engaged a lot of content and ideas. I’m sure I’m missing various topics, and hopefully I’ll review the podcast a few more times to get everything identified.

Last Result

Curses are a last result. This is the red button the host talks about. Like a nuclear strike, a person doesn’t start there, but attempts other forms of arbitration. You go to the cops, you deal with Human Resources, you deal with the situation yourself.

It’s important for us to deal with things ourselves. I’m someone who is an introvert, and in the past it’s been very hard for me to stand up for myself. That has changed as I’ve gotten older.

On a natural world level, I would let my anger or frustration with someone build up. I would internalize it. Then when it reached a breaking point, where I couldn’t control it, I would lash out. Sometimes at the wrong target.

This get’s corrected when one self-analyzes their actions and feelings. It also starts getting resolved the more one meditates – to clear the mind of baggage. Spiritual practices that cut the ties to others is also a help.

Today, I try and engage and confront quickly and this confrontation is handled at the degree of response desired.

Recently I talked to the host of Black Flame Immersion about my own struggles with dealing with those of the abrahamic parasitism. What I took from his advice, is to remember that not every interaction is worthy of a response.

It Comes From You

All of the above, relating to the natural world, can be interpreted into the magical. When we get situations of frustration, do we confront every situation? Social media is toxic for this very reason, as it causes us (at least me) to engage every thought. This, as noted above is not appropriate, due to the energy draw it takes on a person.

However, if a situation is worthy, and this situation is worthy of attack (destruction), then the aspirant may go down the road of a magical attack. If that blow up is channeled into a curse, it needs to be realized for what it is… it is an act of destruction. This attack doesn’t come from a deity, it comes from me, you, the individual.

This will be a point of contention I suppose, for those who feel the grimoire beings are aiding in the attack. My personal view, is that for the most part, these beings are aspects of the self, allowing for the bridge between the lack of belief in the power of the self, and the magical outcome. This isn’t to say that spiritual entities do not exist. I believe they do, but I also believe that the most common connection we make is with a more expanded form of our own nature (the Daemon of Aristotle, the Holy Guardian Angel of Crowley and so forth.).

As this comes from the individual, it is unlikely that an individual could perform a work of hate on behalf of someone else. This sentiment the host raises and I’m in complete alignment here. The working I did against that executive so many years ago, it was done with personal hate. If I didn’t have the personal hate, I would have to somehow become the “other person,” needing the work done… and while that might be possible, it is unlikely. It’s very challenging to wear the projection of another (such as with a god form, but of a living person), to the degree of feeling their hate towards the target. It could be done, but seems very challenging to pull off.

False Targets

If one isn’t ready, or focused, the work could accidentally be driven to the wrong target. The host gives an example of a confidant asking him about a curse, stating that they don’t want the curse to hit the wrong target (such as the target’s children.)

The response of the host is that such thinking shows this person isn’t ready to do the work. This is a final act of destruction. It needs to be focused. It also shouldn’t be concerned with the outcomes and how it affects others.

If any of that is in the mind of the aspirant, then the curse is not the right course of action. There is a lack of focus and a possible slip into the wrong target.

Political targets of curse work came up. The host didn’t mention it, but there are books written by authors on how to curse a very controversial leader.

But really, even the person who is the most angry on Facebook about such political leaders, the hate isn’t really personal. On some level it’s diffused because of the lack of connection to this person. I suppose if you had family put into a camp and they died… that might make the hate more personal…

But let’s go further. Consider Assad of Syria. He gasses his own people, and evidently has killed nearly 500,000 of his own civilians. That’s got to be some personal hatred there. Yet he remains in power. Why is that? Is no one cursing him?

Public Targets are Hard to Hit

My personal ideas on this, are such that public targets (with a lot of support and hate) are very hard to break through that wall of collective energy. Too many people are either supporting or hating the target and the magical work has to mitigate it all.

It’s far easier to pick a less visible target… so if a politician is running for office and one seeks to nullify that with magic, it would make more sense (to me), to look at something not in the public eye. Bypassing the public target, for say a business owned by the politician, might be more productive, as the business may not have much attention on it and might be more susceptible to change. But is such magic even a curse?

I suppose I’ll deal with that idea in the final post on this podcast… when is magic a curse and when is it not?

The Piece of You Driven Into the Other

I had never quite heard this description before, but it works well. The host advised the audience that a curse is like taking a piece of your flame and sending it into the target. You lose a part of yourself that you don’t get back.

Although I have little experience with cursing, the time I did use a magical attack on someone caused me to feel that I was “yoked” with them. It felt like their fall would take me with it, their rise would take me with it. This is my personal thoughts at the time, and are subject to change with more experience.

Yet in a way, there’s some overlap of idea here. I felt I was connected to the target in a very weird way. Perhaps people should consider that, if the goal is to remove the other from their life. Does the hate detach us? Or does it bring us in a constant reminder of what we hate? This is my question. I haven’t a full answer, except I lean towards the idea that hating someone holds them in our consciousness even more. Letting go of them, is as though we release them from our own anger, hate, etc. The reader’s personal experience may differ.

Construction of the Curse

Up to now the host has described that the curse is individual in nature. The curse is a last resort. A curse is an act of destruction. The goal must be focused, to be driven home to the right person. There must be a strong personal connection. If one believes in karma, I think it will influence the outcome and one must be willing to take responsibility for such an outcome.

If after all that the curse work is to continue… then the host gives examples of how they would construct a curse. These are not steps to do, but loose ideas.

The host mentions the use of images of the target, pieces of the target (hair, nail clippings, etc.) This personalization works for the host. The anger and hate must be very strong.

Example Outcomes

Example given by the host of outcomes here would be, illness, death. Death by car accident is mentioned. Loss of income, or work and so forth.

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